Some casinos look at counting as unfair and just back you off but the same casino may look at holecarding as cheating or taking extreme advantage of their inability to train their people (they get defensive because they know they do not know what they are doing). Such as: everytime I might have doubled 9 against a 10 the dealer had a big stiff or splitting two little cards against a dealer 10 and the dealer never had a pat hand. My guess is after I left someone reviewed the tape and might have been able to see the flashes and also noted some of my plays against dealer big cards that were totally against BS but were done only when the dealer had a stiff. I did not make stupid plays like hitting an 18 when I knew the dealer had 20, but I had a huge win and probably played the game way too long. Any takers?Ĭlick to expand.I played their lousy double deck game against an extremely weak dealer where I could see the hole card perhaps 75% on the time. Maybe some one with more experience can can tell us if I'm right. However, this is purely an opinion formed on what I've read and nothing more. So I would conclude one maybe two backoffs tops before a barring. Of course this again all depends on a number of factors, if you play at a local joint where they know you (especially if you always play during the same shift), if you have a players card(this makes easier to track your play), length of sessions(it's is less likely they'll be able to gain enough information to decide weather your winning is luck or skill if you only play for 1 or 2 hours at a time instead of say 4 or 5) and last but not least when you play(busy holiday weekends or wednesday afternoons, the busier the time the easier it is to blend in and not be noticed) however, if your playing 1-10 black or purple chip spread at the mgm in vegas they will most likely take notice and depending on how long you've been watched you might get one back off. If your're playing a 1-10 red chip spread at the mgm grand in las vegas they probably won't even notice you. I have no casino play(as I am Far too young and can not count anyway) however, I believe it mainly depens on the joint, your bankroll and your bet ramp, for example, if you're playing a 1-10 black chip spread at a green chip you might get one backoff before a barring.

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